Peter Trumble logsheet

PIRSA Oral History Program – State Library reference no. for Somerville Collection OH 675/5

An interview with Peter Trumble by Bernard O’Neil on 18 and 27 November 2003, 16 December 2003 and 12 December 2005 in regards to the history of the Department of Agriculture.

Time

Subject

Proper names

 

Tape 1, Side A

 

0:30

Personal background; born July 1927; education; father’s work

Melbourne University; A.E.V. Richardson; Waite Institute; Melbourne; Upper Mitcham; Highgate Primary School; Scotch College; Trinity Grammar School, Kew

2:45

Depression era

 

3:25

Career path; university education; limited experience of farms and farming

Adelaide University; Waite Institute; Roseworthy College; Adelaide Railway Station; Gawler; Pt Pirie; Meningie; Balcarres Pastoral Company

9:45

Agricultural activities at Scotch; boarders; boyhood experiences

Brownhill Creek; Mitcham Village; McElligott Quarry; Old Mount Barker Rd

13:00

Sports interests; team vs individual approach

 

14:50

University education

Commonwealth Reconstruction Training Scheme; Waite Institute; Roseworthy; Centaurs Hockey Club

17:55

Graduated in 1949; early work experience; Adelaide’s West End; securing government employment

West End Brewery; Lance Walters; Europe; California; Hindley St; John Harvey; [Allan] Callaghan; Bill Spafford; Agriculture Department

22:25

Joining the Department

Callaghan; Harry Kemp

24:45

Cadetship system – graduate appointees; butternut pumpkin in Australia; departmental expansion

Prof. Trumble; Gordon Edwards; Max Till; Marilyn Monroe; America; Callaghan

27:25

Citrus industry; publications; transfer to work for the Director; involvement with the Standing Committee on Agriculture (Directors, Departments, Ministers)

Adelaide; River Murray; Cadell; Renmark; Mypolonga; Murray Bridge; Adelaide Plains; Salisbury; Barmera, Waikerie; Loxton; Berri Experimental Orchard; Loxton Research Centre; Callaghan; CSIRO; Commerce and Agriculture Department (Cwth), Health Department (Cwth); Hubert Mullett; Bob Noble; Arthur Bell; George Baron-Hay; Frank Hicks; John Crawford; Nugget Coombs; Ian Clunies-Ross

 

Tape 1, Side B

 

0:10

Standing Committee and State/Commonwealth issues; Australian Agricultural Council; advisory service for insect pests and plant diseases; working with the Director; Research Centres Policy Committee; mentoring cadets

Crawford; Callaghan; Bell; Noble; Riverland; CSIRO; Waite Institute; Lands Department

14:00

Relationships with fellow workers

Callaghan; Margaret Cumming; Stan North

17:05

Agriculture Building; Minister of Agriculture’s office; executive administration; herd recording; Branch Heads meetings

Simpson’s Building; Glen Pearson; Callaghan; North; Education Building; Geoff Strickland; [Marshall] Irving

21:10

Role of the Minister; Minister of Agriculture Department; Minister’s other departments; move to the ‘Black Stump’; relationships with Ministers; Callaghan’s resignation; relations with Premier Playford; extension work; departmental reorganisation of branches and sections; new staff

Callaghan; [Don] Dunstan; David Corbett; Egg Board; Advisory Board of Agriculture; Phylloxera Board; Tom Casey; Gabe Bywaters; Pearson; Tom Playford; George Jenkins; Arthur Christian; Eyre Peninsula; Cockaleechee; Minnipa; Roseworthy College; Strickland; Bob Herriot; Graham Itzerott; Lofty Barlow; Lex Walker; Newton Tiver; Len Cook; Kybybolite

 

Tape 2, Side A

 

0:15

Animal Husbandry Branch; Dairy Branch; Fisheries Division; dairy farmers; regional management; agricultural economics; Poultry Unit

Callaghan; Cyril Anderson; Bill McAuliffe; Dennis Muirhead; Steve Reid; Cyril McKenna; European Economic Community; David Penny

6:15

Departmental library and information service; temporary editor of the journal; Extension Services Division; dryland farming technique; in-service extension training school; Rural Youth Movement; small farms around Adelaide

Adelaide University; British Commonwealth Agricultural Bureau; Journal of Agriculture ; Callaghan; Saddleworth; the Colemans; Herriot; Roseworthy College; Peter Angove; Jamestown

13:40

Barley improvement program and committees

Walters; Walter Jacobs; SA Brewing Company; Arthur Barrett; Callaghan; Barley Board; David Sparrow; Waite Institute

15:40

Range of tasks; cadetship scheme; agricultural economics; animal husbandry course

CSIRO; Bushfire Research Committee; Prof. Trumble; Callaghan; Roseworthy College; University of New England; Armidale; Jim McClymont; Adelaide University; Frank Jarrett; Tasmania; Crawford; Clunies-Ross

19:48

Callaghan’s importance in agriculture locally and nationally; fundamental and applied research

Australian Institute of Agricultural Science; Callaghan; Australian Journal of Experimental Agriculture and Animal Husbandry; CSIRO

23:00

Reputation of SA’s Department; nature of farming locally

Western Australia; Callaghan

24:55

Government querying the Department’s role, 1971

Callaghan; Strickland; Irving

27:40

Comparison with other State departments; value of agriculture to SA; Callaghan’s achievement in creating a dynamic organisations

Waite Institute; Callaghan; Pearson; Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science; Playford; New South Wales; Victoria; Western Australia; Strickland

 


Tape 2, Side B

 

0:05

Callaghan’s introduction of divisions and a functional-based structure

Tom Miller; Strickland; Walker; Herriot; Agricultural Bureau; Rural Youth Movement; Women’s Agricultural Bureau; Callaghan; Roseworthy College

3:15

New structure; Research Centres Policy Committee

Callaghan; Kybybolite; Minnipa; Turretfield

4:15

Role of the Waite Institute; Callaghan’s resignation

Waite Institute; Northfield; Callaghan; Prof. Trumble; Murray Bridge; Monarto; Washington

7:10

New Director of Agriculture; Public Service hierarchy

Strickland; Callaghan; Herriot; Irving; Playford

12:00

Premier’s Conference; Agricultural Council; Wheat Stabilisation Scheme; Test Match

Canberra; Australian Wheat Board; Victoria; Bob Menzies; John McEwen; Playford; Prof. Trumble; Tom Trumble; MCG; West Indies; Brisbane; ‘Slasher’ McKay; Adelaide Oval; Strickland

17:15

Bushfire Research Committee; bushfire protection; bushfire parade

Kongorong; Mount Gambier; Playford; Waite Institute; James Melville; Strickland; Brian Bednall; David Brookman; Barry Graham

21:00

Preparation of annual report

Strickland

22:00

Preparation of material for Commonwealth Grants Commission

 

23:10

Travel in SA; Agricultural Bureau conferences; district conferences; role of the Agricultural Bureaus; information media

Callaghan; Eyre Peninsula; Upper North; Wirrabara; Melrose; Port Augusta; Cleve; Port Lincoln; ‘Country Hour’; Chronicle; Stock and Station Journal; Mypolonga; River Murray; Murray Bridge

27:40

Attending Royal Show, field days, local shows; changes to own working life and in the Department; rural industries assistance; Vertebrate Pests activities

Callaghan; Playford; Eyre Peninsula; Strickland; CSIRO; Waite Institute; Irving; Jim McColl; Corbett Report

 

Tape 3, Side A

 

0:30

Public Administration Diploma, 1956–60: Royal Institute of Public Administration Medal and Prize; provision for study leave

Callaghan; Adelaide University; Leo Blair; Bob Reed; W.G.K. Duncan; Gordon Reid; Graham Inns; John Holland

10:30

Employment with CSIRO interstate; nature of national capitals and federal administration

Strickland; Peter Butler; CSIRO; Melbourne; London; Washington; Chris Christian; Clunies-Ross; Sir Otto Frankel; Cootamundra; Canberra; Kimberley; Queensland; Northern Territory; Tasmania; Brasilia

19:20

Return to Adelaide for work; administrative structures

Melbourne; Waite Institute; Garfield Lockhart Gooden; Jim Melville; CSIRO

23:45

Relationship between Agriculture Department and CSIRO; Australia-wide conferences in agricultural science issues; publications; extension programs; conference tour; Australian Fruit Research Conference, 1958; relationships between scientists vs administrators; reaction to personal moves for career

Clunies-Ross; Agriculture Research Liaison Section; Reg Pennyfather; NSW; Riverina; Callaghan; Noble; Mullett; Bell; Upper South East; Coonalpyn Downs; Roseworthy College; Tom Miller; Australian Wine Research Institute; Charles Stevens; CSIRO Soils; Christian; Victoria; Australian Institute of Agricultural Science

 

Tape 3, Side B

 

0:05

University administration; functions of the Waite Institute; university relations with the Waite; Safety Committee

Gooden; Waite Institute; Mortlock Field Station; Adelaide University; Mintaro; Martindale Hall; Melville; Wal Meiklejohn

8:00

Safety Committee’s work; safe working environment; occupational health and safety issues

CSIRO; Melville

11:00

Application to head the Department; contact with the Department

Strickland; Melville; Irving; Herriot; Roseworthy; Australian Institute of Agricultural Science; Walker; Peter Barrow; Reg French

14:45

New Departmental management structure; becoming the Assistant Director, Administration and Finance

Irving; Walker; Barrow; Waite; Max Dennis

18:40

Re-commencing with the Department, 1971; establishing relations with staff

Irving; Melville; Viv Lohmeyer; Hugh Mathews; Stan North; Walker; Barrow; Morrie Zobel

24:45

Plan for departmental headquarters Northfield; plan for Monarto; Dairy Research Station; Whitlam era

Irving; Fred Crosby; Neighbour, Cheeseman & Doley; Monarto; Strickland; Northfield; John Feagan; John Radcliffe; Dunstan; [Gough] Whitlam; Albury–Wodonga; [Malcolm] Fraser

 

Tape 4, Side A

 

0:15

Monarto; study tour (decentralisation, management, research regionalisation); staff attitudes to Monarto; Monarto Steering Committee; ‘Black Stump’; Deputy Director

Irving; Walker; Barrow; McColl; Britain; France; Monarto; Feagan; John Flaherty

8:00

Office décor; transfer of Northfield plans to Monarto; end of Monarto

McColl; Monarto; Northfield; Whitlam

11:00

Move to ‘Black Stump’; conditions in Simpson’s Building; heat rule

 

13:50

Government questioning of the rationale for Department

Callaghan

14:35

Personal attitude to moving to Monarto

Blackwood; Northfield; Monarto; Iris Stevens; Strickland

17:15

Government questioning of the rationale for Department; Callaghan report on regionalisation; Irving’s ill-health

Casey; Irving; Lohmeyer; Walker; Barrow; Callaghan; Doreen Callaghan; Adelaide; Surfers Paradise

23: 25

Nature of Irving’s leadership; Departmental Social Club

 

25:10

Nature of Minister of Agriculture; Acting Director; government questioning of the rationale for Department

Irving; Casey; Peterborough; Dunstan

 

 

 

31:30

Nature of Minister of Agriculture

Casey; [Brian] Chatterton; Reading University; Des Corcoran; Millicent

 

 

 

 

Tape 4, Side B

 

0:05

Casey overseas; working with Acting Minister Corcoran

Casey; Japan; Arthur Tideman; Corcoran; Chatterton

5:40

Table margarine quotas

Casey; Archie Cameron

8:15

Dealings with the Minister; Minister’s Office; political considerations

Barrow; Walker; Irving; Pearson; Corcoran; Chapman

13:20

Ministerial queries

Lohmeyer; Irving; Strickland

16:10

Director and Minister relations

 

17:40

Ministerial advisers; press secretary

Chris Schacht; Casey; Dunstan

 

Tape 5, Side A

 

0:30

Ministers of Agriculture; Callaghan Report; deputy directorship; Deputy Director; Acting Director

Casey; Corcoran; Irving; Public Service Board; Inns; McColl

4:40

New Minister of Agriculture; Emergency Fire Service

Chatterton; Dunstan; Reading University (UK); Jon Lamb

9:55

Minister Chatterton’s approach to the Department

Inns

13:05

Acting Directorship; relations with incoming Director

Chatterton; McColl; Premier’s Department; Corcoran; Victoria; Australian Institute of Agricultural Science; Melbourne

16:40

Applying for Deputy Director and Director positions

Chatterton; Walker; Hugh Matthews

18:35

Hiatus in the Department

Irving

19:45

Appointment of deputy heads in the Public Service

 

21:15

Relations with new Director

McColl; Melbourne

25:45

Amalgamation of Agriculture and Fisheries Departments; ALP Fisheries Committee; Acting Director of Fisheries

Corbett; Mick Olsen; Gavin Kenneally; Pt Augusta; Pt Pirie; Public Service Board; Canada; Britain; Harry Shaw

 

 

 

 

Tape 5, Side B

 

0:00

Amalgamation of Agriculture and Fisheries Departments – Fisheries Division; Public Service Board; re-creation of Fisheries Department; long-lasting Supreme Court case; nature of fishermen; fisheries management

McColl; Olsen; Ian Kirkegaard; Richard Stevens; Gawler Place; Chapman; Allan Rodda; Max Scriven; London

12:25

Relations between Minister, Director and Research Assistant

Chatterton; McColl; Lynne Arnold; Flinders  [University]; [Brian] Medlin

15:35

Friction between the Department and the Minister’s wife; developing macro-economic and farm management issues

Bob Walkerden; McColl; Brian Chatterton

19:20

Minister’s ideas and policies

Chatterton

21:00

Did not travel with the Minister; overseas development projects (Overseas Project Division; Sagric International)

Casey; Japan; Tideman; Australian Administrative Staff College; Libya; Barrow; Iraq; McColl; Thailand; Chatterton; Pat Harvey; John Doolette; Glynn Webber

25:15

Minister Chapman; retirement from the Department; work on local government; return of Chatterton as Minister

Chapman; Chatterton; Jennifer Cashmore; Kangaroo Island; Councils (Adelaide, Enfield, Walkerville, Prospect, Unley, Mitcham, Stirling); Kenneally; Pt Augusta; ALP Fisheries Committee; Olsen; Corcoran; McColl

 

 

 

 

Tape 6, Side A

 

0:00

Post-departmental career; Agricultural Equipment Liaison Committee

Agricultural Equipment Liaison Committee; United Farmers and Stockowners

4:30

Conciliator for the Native Vegetation Control Authority; land clearance

Native Vegetation Control Authority; Queensland

11:55

General local government issues

Councils (Adelaide, Enfield, Walkerville, Prospect, Unley, Mitcham, Stirling)

14:15

Voluntary work in retirement; leaving professional associations

 

15:35

Agricultural College Department and Roseworthy College becomes a College of Advance Education; work on re-establishing the College’s finances; Roseworthy becomes a campus of Adelaide University; appointing a new Director; Department of Agriculture representative on the College Council

Herriot; Don B. Williams; Bureau of Agricultural Economics, Canberra; CSIRO Agriculture and Research Liaison Section; Chapman; Tertiary Education Commission; Australian Institute of Agriculture (SA Branch); Miller; Barry Thistlethwaite; McColl

28:00

Regionalisation and reorganisation – devolving management

McColl; Irving; Struan; Naracoorte; Kybybolite; Cook; Callaghan; Canada; UK

 

Tape 6, Side B

 

0:00

Developing management ideas; regionalisation in State government; five regions for the Department (South East, Murraylands, Central, West, Far North); problems in implementing regionalisation; management structure; restructuring remainder into divisions (animal health, soil conservation, weeds, invertebrate pests, horticulture, agronomy, field crops, pastures, animal husbandry, dairy husbandry, veterinarians, policy secretariat, economics, overseas projects, administration and finance, and extension and information); personalities, professionalism and politics

McColl; Chatterton; Working Party on Uniform Regional Boundaries; Struan; Mt Gambier; Naracoorte; Riverland; Murraylands; Loxton; Berri; Murray Bridge; Pt Augusta; Keith; Miller; Lands Department; Far North; John Potter; Radcliffe; Eyre Peninsula; Western Australia

15:50

Reorganisation as a substitute for activity; modern requirements on organisations

 

17:30

Impact of the Corbett Report; move of Rural Assistance Branch of Lands Department to Agriculture Department

Corbett Report; Mr Forrest; McColl; Potter

21:20

Vertebrate Pest Control Authority’s work; Pest Plants Act, 1976; appointed chairman of Pest Plants Commission

John Bromell; London; Jack Dunsford

25:45

Local Pest Plant Control Boards (weed control and rabbit control etc.); co-operation of boards and councils; impact of Royal Commission on local government boundaries; local rivalries; Animal and Pest Plant Control Commission

Mallee; Tideman; Eyre Peninsula; South East; Pinnaroo; Mid North; Lameroo

 


Tape 7, Side A

 

0:05

Role in the transfer of the Veterinary Science Division of the Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science to the Department; political interest in animal rather than human health; pathology industry under Medicare; IMVS Act; relations between IMVS and Department; decision to merge veterinary services; reorganisation arrangements; a Councillor of the IMVS; animal breeding facilities; overcoming resentment; Public Service Act; Research Management secretariat; leadership role for John Radcliffe; implementation post-retirement; legislation; role of the Ministers

Premier Playford; Roseworthy; McColl; Earle Gardner; Harvey; Bob Smith; Lois Grant; South Australian Institute of Technology; Mr Wheatland; Frome Road; Gilles Plains; Duncan Sheriff; Peter Crossley; Radcliffe; Roger Wickes; [Jennifer] Adamson; Mr Ford; Barry Windle; Melbourne; Victorian Department of Agriculture; Ted Chapman

 


Tape 7, Side B

 

0:05

Dual Ministerial responsibilities; statutory body; personalities and politics

McColl; Chatterton; Kenneally; Port Augusta; Premier Bannon; Blevins; Harvey

 

Post-retirement career